# Accessibility team meeting notes

**URL:** <https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/accessibility-team-meeting-notes/26133>\
**Category:** Accessibility\
**Created:** [December 13, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/accessibility-team-meeting-notes/26133 "2023-12-13T13:03:32Z")\
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## 2024-02-29 Djangonauts Assemble

Attendees: Tom Carrick, Thibaud Colas, Eliana Rosselli, Emmanuel

Notes from Sarah:  
I might not be here - so here is my notes

- Djangonauuuuuts so nice to have you in our wonderful A11y space ❤So sorry if I’m not there.
- Accessibility swag
  - Only stickers? Other things? Djangonauts any POV?

- I’m planning to nominate Tushar as DSF member to be able to add him to the team
  - He is still happy for the maintenance and would love to finish his ticket

- I added the link for the checklist I started for DDT - clearly unfinished
- No news from Tom Forbes for the a11y pipeline
- I’m planning to discuss with Saptak about improvement on the switch dark/light theme
  - Should we invite him to the meeting if needed? Might be better to discuss all together

- Friends you need to review my [Accessibility Checklis](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1xkLGhTCVzNlYkKyK0WK4uZJ7qlt5aZAw9rWwFXvUdHg/edit)t 👀
  - Djangonauts are happy to review it?
  - I have one comment from Natalia I havent done for landmarks

### Actions

- Sarah have to reply to Sangeeta for the accessibility swag
- Thibaud Investigate Chrome & Edge long term support / enterprise versioning
- Thibaud Write exact date at which we expect to be using :has and popover, produce browser APIs report per next 3 Django versions (see [Dropping Safari 14 support (late 2023) · Issue #8520 · wagtail/wagtail · GitHub](https://github.com/wagtail/wagtail/issues/8520#issuecomment-1818336869) )
- Tom Review Sarah’s DDT issues [DDT Accessibility](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HVrS3LndCE5feFTrHha0L5-1VQwd6vIe6BUNNNsMPaQ/edit?hl=fr#gid=0)
- Thibaud Provide testable input date time demo for [#15806](https://github.com/django/django/pull/15806) – release date field + last login
- ✅ Thibaud Review next QA checklist draft
- Tom Create ticket for search landmark improvements on changelists
- ✅ Tom Investigate how best to test DateTimeField with django admin demo (log entry? User admin?)
- Thibaud Share django pony designs with Sarah
- Thibaud Coordinate call with prospective GSoC mentors for ideas
- ✅ Thibaud Research any pre-existing Django admin user docs?
- ✅ Thibaud Coordinate Google Season of Docs proposals process
- Thibaud Follow up on “Thibaud’s static admin demo thing, can it be automated better / made generally available”
- Thibaud Visual regression testing pipeline setup for demo site
- Thibaud Fix demo site pipeline & review underlines PR
- Tom Check how best to test multiple widgets per line in demo site [#16975](https://github.com/django/django/pull/16975)
- Eli Submit DjangoCon Europe proposal on accessibility or a topic of your choosing
- ✅ Thibaud Write Django admin talk proposal with Tom
- ✅ Tom Submit talk proposal
- Thibaud Follow up with Open Source Design
- Thibaud Organise potential OTF application for UXD or Secure Usability & Accessibility lab

### Actions review

- ✅Sarah Share progress on django-debug-toolbar accessibility issues
  - [DDT Accessibility](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HVrS3LndCE5feFTrHha0L5-1VQwd6vIe6BUNNNsMPaQ/edit?hl=fr#gid=0)

- Thibaud Provide testable input date time demo for [#15806](https://github.com/django/django/pull/15806) – release date field + last login
- Thibaud Review next QA checklist draft
- Tom Create ticket for search landmark improvements on changelists
- ✅Sarah Creative genius for accessibility swag
  - Sangeeta is ok

- Thibaud Share django pony designs with Sarah
- Thibaud Coordinate call with prospective GSoC mentors for ideas
- Thibaud Coordinate Google Season of Docs proposals process
- Thibaud Follow up on “Thibaud’s static admin demo thing, can it be automated better / made generally available”
- Thibaud Nominate Eli, Marijke, Alexander, Nina and other as DSF members

### Agenda

- Introductions
  - Eli
    - Djangonaut Space
    - Helping people avoid lawsuits
    - Tooltips! [New pattern needed for Django admin tooltips - Accessibility](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/new-pattern-needed-for-django-admin-tooltips/28028)

- Tooltips! [New pattern needed for Django admin tooltips - Accessibility](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/new-pattern-needed-for-django-admin-tooltips/28028)
  - Use popover HTML support
  - Browser support – good enough for release after next. 5.2
    - [popover browser support](https://caniuse.com/?search=popover)
    - [FAQ: The admin | Django documentation](https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.0/faq/admin/#what-browsers-are-supported-for-using-the-admin)
    - [Firefox version history - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_version_history)
    - Do we need to formalize our support targets?
    - “Everything left on caniuse, latest and LTS release”
    - Research Chrome enterprise?

- GSoC
  - Eli & Tom & Thibaud interested – create list of ideas & discuss mentoring time commitment
  - 90h / 175h / 350h
  - 8 weeks / 12 weeks / 12 weeks
  - Mentors – 1 to 5h per week

- Google Season of Docs
  - Asked the board
  - Django developer docs accessibility improvements
    - Tom: “haven’t you already done this?”

  - Django admin user docs (it was Tom’s idea)
    - Eli did this for work
    - Tom too

  - How do we find the technical writer to do this?
    - Personal network
    - Write the Docs network
    - Quite good paid opportunity

- [Move admin form labels to a more accessible place #16975](https://github.com/django/django/pull/16975)
  - Concerns about combinations of admin forms customizations
  - Multiple widgets on one line
    - How many widgets do we want to support?
      - Chooser widgets side by side?
      - Structured name field?
      - Widgets in a grid?
      - Multi-field addresses w/ one field per line
      - Text, numbers, dropdowns

- [Fixed #34917 -- Underlined Links in Django Admin. by Myrausman · Pull Request #17883 · django/django · GitHub](https://github.com/django/django/pull/17883)
  - Thibaud review

- DjangoCon Europe talks
  - Eli – do it!
  - Tom?
    - Curb cut effect and Django
    - All the Django admin features you’ve never heard of before

- Open Source Design
  - Ask what they would offer?

- Open Technology Fund
  - [https://www.opentech.fund/labs/sua-lab/](https://www.opentech.fund/labs/sua-lab/)

- Users of assistive tech we could reach out

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