# Proposal: retiring django-users and django-developers mailing lists
**URL:** https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/proposal-retiring-django-users-and-django-developers-mailing-lists/35747
**Category:** Django Internals
**Created:** [October 17, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/proposal-retiring-django-users-and-django-developers-mailing-lists/35747 "2024-10-17T15:45:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@kmtracey](https://forum.djangoproject.com/u/kmtracey)
#### Post date: [January 23, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/proposal-retiring-django-users-and-django-developers-mailing-lists/35747/21 "2025-01-23T15:09:27Z")
Plan sounds good to me, I’m happy to either add you as owner to let you make changes directly or do things as requested, whichever you would find less hassle. Let me know which you prefer.
On the last item of the message people get when a post is rejected, it looks like that can be customized, as has been for django-developers. At the bottom of the “posting policies” section of settings I see:
Does that only come into play when the message is rejected due to moderation and not when it’s rejected due to the posting being restricted to only managers?
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### Author:  [@jacobian](https://forum.djangoproject.com/u/jacobian)
#### Post date: [January 23, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/proposal-retiring-django-users-and-django-developers-mailing-lists/35747/22 "2025-01-23T16:58:51Z")
Yeah, if it matters, 👍 from me as well.
(I’d forgotten I’m still an owner of the mailing lists; I almost certainly should have handed that of loooooong ago, but at this point might as well just stick around and turn out the lights 🙂 )
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### Author:  [@thibaudcolas](https://forum.djangoproject.com/u/thibaudcolas)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/proposal-retiring-django-users-and-django-developers-mailing-lists/35747/23 "2025-02-20T15:46:25Z")
(just noting we now have all relevant documentation and signposting updated, so I’ve privately contacted Karen and Jacob to proceed with the “gradual shutdown”. Thanks all!)
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### Author:  [@nanorepublica](https://forum.djangoproject.com/u/nanorepublica)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/proposal-retiring-django-users-and-django-developers-mailing-lists/35747/24 "2025-03-04T21:39:35Z")
One place where the mailing lists are still mentioned is here in the forum categories for “Using Django” and “Django Internals”. There is also a few pinned posts from Andrew as well which reference the mailing lists.
Both of these places feel like we should just drop the reference or edit the wording to mention they exist for historical purposes now.
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### Author:  [@andrewgodwin](https://forum.djangoproject.com/u/andrewgodwin)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/proposal-retiring-django-users-and-django-developers-mailing-lists/35747/25 "2025-03-05T22:02:45Z")
I’ll get those categories and pinned posts updated!
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### Author:  [@thibaudcolas](https://forum.djangoproject.com/u/thibaudcolas)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/proposal-retiring-django-users-and-django-developers-mailing-lists/35747/26 "2025-06-12T05:22:25Z")
👋 checking in – things seem to be going well, with 1 message on django-developers since Karen’s announcement, and 5-10 on django-users. When do people think we should be switching to the next phase of “restrict all posting to Managers only”? Does some time between “now” and end of 2025 sound reasonable?
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### Author:  [@nanorepublica](https://forum.djangoproject.com/u/nanorepublica)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2025, 10:08am UTC](https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/proposal-retiring-django-users-and-django-developers-mailing-lists/35747/27 "2025-06-12T10:08:21Z")
Having a quick glance at those posts. I feel we would probably advance to the next phase with the developers list now, but leave the users list for another few months.
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