2024-11-26 Film grain
Attendees: Marijke, Tom, Eli, Thibaud, Sarah
Actions
- Thibaud Publish Sarah’s blog post
- Thibaud Follow up with new GH org for the axe-selenium-python
- Thibaud you have an email from Outreachy to reply when you have time
- Tom, Marijke, Thibaud Fight it out on the Django forum re. linting tools
- Sarah do a PR on Tom’s demo for the accessibility CI for Django
- Thibaud Share recording of screen reader testing on #35870
- Marijke Further mess with #35870
- Sarah, Saptak, Tom Chase on FOSDEM accessibility talks
- Thibaud Submit accessibility talk proposal
- All - share FOSDEM accessibility talk ideas
- Thibaud Airbnb for FOSDEM
- Thibaud Airbnb for DjangoCon Europe
- Thibaud Do a Trac & GitHub issues accessibility audit
- Sarah Ask James on Slack
Actions review
Agenda
- Congratulations Tom!
- Accessibility considerations for events
- Found the ones from Paris Web
- Packages for accessibility review
- django-debug-toolbar
- django-allauth
- Accessibility of CLI interfaces
- Part of the accessibility team’s remit
- Dunning-Kreuger effect graph
- Also it doesn’t exist / needs further proof
- Better show password input in management commands
- Recent example
- Proposal: Accessibility developer in residence
- Needs a lot of expertise
- Needs time to find the right person
- Thibaud you have an email from Outreachy to reply when you have time
- Working with James Scholes
- Provided feedback about the Django admin, working with Marijke
- Discuss perspectives with him
- Based in South America (time zones: Europe evening)
- Multi-select widget
- Blog post: Welcome to our new members
- Smaller images
- Alphabetical
- Shitpost working group progress report
- Office hours bingo generator
- Wp-login plugin (“I’m not affiliated with WP Engine”)
- 2024 accessibility team report
- January 2025
- 2023 report: Django accessibility in 2023 and beyond | Weblog
- Steering Council
- New SC coming up in 1 month’s time
- Marijke and Tom part of those discussions from afar
- Chatting with SC candidates
- Documented SC overlap in DEP 10
- “To take charge of the governance of other technical teams within the Django open-source project, following the processes described below, and to govern those teams accordingly.”
- Feeling is only SC involvement to date was deciding what not to do
- Possible focus:
- Docs improvements
- Accessibility of docs
- Possible Season of Docs projects
- Django docs falling behind compared to other projects
- Usability issues with the docs
- Wall of text
- Community improvements
- (keyboard shortcuts)
- Features attract more dev users to Django
- Docs improvements
- Accessibility improvements roadmap
- Django 6.x: “top 10 items”
- Django 6.0 “top 3 items”
- Roadmap is necessary but not sufficient
- Candidates:
- Keyboard shortcuts
- Color contrast issues for admin icons #35888
- (RTL)
- RTL
- Blocked by auto-formatting?
- Biome vs. Prettier
- Tom’s forum post: Adding a formatter for CSS & JS - Django Internals
- #35870
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- Thibaud doing screen reader testing
- TalkBack needed for testing
- Marijke’s test project: django-local-test
- Marijke is team both, Thibaud is team fix defaults
- Needs further research & trial and error
- FOSDEM 2025
- CfP deadline in 4 days
- Saptak, Sarah, Tom looking for more talks
- Tom submitted
- Raffaella submitting?
- Thibaud has to submit
- What happens if there aren’t enough talks submitted?
- Airbnb duty, many people (accessibility team, Alex)
- FOSDEM accessibility talk ideas
- Links and buttons
- CLI accessibility
- Hyphens and screen readers
- DjangoCon Europe Accessibility
- We want to be involved with accessibility of the conference, in particular slides
- Follow up with checklist similar to our attempt for
- Eli and Thibaud DjangoCon Europe in Dublin
- Can I sneak Trac in at the end
- Need a volunteer to do an accessibility audit of Trac
- Choice quotes from the internet
- “Trac makes me irrationally angry”
- “It makes it feel very old to me”
- “Gives that feeling of Django is a dying framework”
- “People will judge it by its cover”
- Ask James for input? (in thread)